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Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack

Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack

Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack anime series cover art
Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack

Attack Attack!

Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack is the 2nd season of the Nagatoro anime series. And, I have to say I’m not a huge fan of this season’s title. It feels like there’s something missing. It needs an exclamation point.

Don’t you think “Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack!” looks better? Or, maybe “Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro! 2nd Attack” is best because the exclamation point separates the title and subtitle. In either case, the title just doesn’t feel complete without the exclamation mark.

But, what if we take the Japanese title into consideration? Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san 2nd Attack (イジらないで、長瀞さん 2nd Attack) also feels like it’s missing something. But, here, I’d put the exclamation point at the very end. The difference in language already separates the title and subtitle here.

Hayase beating Naoto in judo from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack
Hayase beating Naoto in judo

Now that I’ve stalled for a bit, I guess I should actually write about the anime. The thing is, there’s not all that much to say about this season of Nagatoro. If you’ve seen the first season, you already know what the series is about. And this season isn’t very different from that one.

Of course, there are some differences. For example, Nagatoro’s toying is much more like flirting and less like bullying. But, that’s not really even unique to this season. We saw that shift happen throughout Season 1. Nagatoro’s toying was only true bullying in the first episode of that season.

By the time we were halfway through the season, I wouldn’t say she was a bully. And that’s still where things stand in Season 2. Partway through the episode, Naoto also starts wearing contacts. So, that’s a difference. Other than that, the only things new here are the new characters.

New Characters

There are 3 new characters in this season. The first is Misaki Nagatoro, Hayase Nagatoro’s older sister. Just by looking at Misaki, you can tell she’s related to Hayase. She does have a lighter complexion than her younger sister. But, we know Hayase’s tan is from her being on the swim team.

Misaki’s personality is also similar to Nagatoro’s. She teases Naoto when she first meets him. But, the person she likes teasing the most is her sister. She enjoys embarrassing Hayase, such as by showing baby photos of Hayase to Naoto. She’s also the one who tells Naoto Hayase’s first name.

The second new character is Hana Sunomiya. She’s the younger cousin of Sana Sunomiya, the previous president of the art club. Hana went to the same middle school as Naoto. And so, when she starts high school, she joins the art club as his kouhai.

Hana pointing at Naoto from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack
Hana pointing at Naoto

Hana is a pretty different character from Sana. We know Sana likes to strip and paint nude portraits of herself. Hana isn’t like that — though she did attempt to strip once. Instead, Hana is very interested in Naoto and Hayase’s relationship. She wants them to become a couple.

The final new character is Orihara. We don’t know what her first name is, but it also doesn’t really matter. Orihara isn’t an important character, by any means. However, if we end up getting a third season — which seems likely — she’ll probably show up more.

Orihara is Hayase’s old judo rival. When they were kids, Hayase was the superior judo-ist (I don’t know what you call people who do judo). But, as they got older, Orihara surpassed Hayase, which led Hayase to quit the sport. I guess Hayase’s competitive nature evaporates once someone’s better than she is.

We’ve Seen It All Before

I know this is probably going to come as a big shock, but Don’t Toy with me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack isn’t very good. It’s not a bad anime. But, it’s also not a good anime and I rated it lower than the first season.

It looks like most viewers rated it higher than the first season. However, they only rated it slightly higher — 7.53 compared to 7.32. Still, compared to my ratings, those scores are way too high. Nagatoro is a fine anime. That’s all it’s ever going to be.

So, what’s the biggest issue with this season? It doesn’t do anything new. What it needed was for the new characters to actually shake things up. They didn’t do that. Hana is a good addition to the series. But, I still felt that it was stale any time she wasn’t around.

Misaki Nagatoro from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack
Misaki Nagatoro

Another issue this season has is that it continues to use stale gags. The example of this I noticed the most is when the characters say something like “that aside.” They do this when they’re changing the conversation. And, every time, they do a specific motion with their hands, as well.

In the first episode that they did this in, it didn’t bother me. Though, even in that one episode, they did it a lot. But, it quickly became apparent that this wasn’t a one-episode gag. Oh no. They continued to use this same gag over and over again throughout the season.

I also want to be very clear that I’m using a very loose definition of the word “gag.” At no point, even the first time it was done, was this funny. Very few things in this series are funny anyway. But, it’s obvious that the author must have loved this.

Conclusion

Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro 2nd Attack is a 5/10. I don’t care if this is your favorite anime. You’ll have to come to terms with the fact that you like mediocre series. And that’s fine. I like bad anime.

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The Problem with Nagatoro’s “Sus”

The Problem with Nagatoro’s “Sus”

The “Sus” That Started It All

It’s been a good 9 months since Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro aired, so I think I’m finally ready to write about Nagatoro’s use of the word “sus.” And while this article is going to focus on Nagatoro, my arguments apply to any anime that use short-lived slang in their translations.

So, let’s start by revisiting the fateful “sus.” As shown below, Nagatoro says “You’ve been acting sus this whole time.” to her senpai in one of the episodes. This caused chaos in the community online. And while I don’t necessarily think this is the worst offender, it’s an example of one of my issues with liberal translations.

I tend to prefer translations that are more literal. And while subtitles tend to be more literal than dubbed lines, translators still take liberties with them. Nagatoro’s “sus” is one such liberty.

Nagatoro saying "sus" from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro
Nagatoro saying “sus”

In the official translation of the manga, Nagatoro refers to her senpai’s actions as “super weird.” And in a fan translation, she says “totally suspicious.” Based on that, “sus” isn’t a terrible translation for the anime to use. It means the same thing and it’s recognizable as being short for suspicious.

What makes this a “bad” translation choice in my eyes is the reasoning behind it. If we’re being honest, the only reason “sus” was chosen as the translation is because of the slang word’s rise in popularity due to the game Among Us and the memes it spawned.

If Among Us memes didn’t take the internet by storm, this translation wouldn’t have happened. Unfortunately for the anime, by the time it aired, Among Us memes were outdated and “cringe,” as the kids would say.

Cheap, Short-Term Victories

If Among Us and the memes spawned from it were still at the height of their popularity when Nagatoro aired, her use of “sus” probably wouldn’t have been as divisive. People would have thought it was funny (some people still did).

But since the meme had already died and the majority of people had moved on from playing Among Us, this translation got a lot of backlash. And that’s the risk taken when using short-lived memes within translations. They can increase popularity within a very short window. But outside of that window, they’ll typically be viewed negatively.

Let’s use another meme as an example. The whole Harambe thing lasted for a relatively long time as far as memes are concerned. But would anyone really think it’s funny if Nagatoro referenced Harambe in an episode? I don’t think so. The time for that is long gone and now it would just be viewed as desperate.

Sakura, Maki, Nagatoro, and Yoshi dressed as cat maids from the anime Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro
Sakura, Maki, Nagatoro, and Yoshi dressed as cat maids

Using a meme that’s out of style has a very “how do you do, fellow kids?” vibe to it. I’d also say that anime these days feel much more corporate. There are huge companies, like Sony and Amazon, buying up series left and right. And that definitely plays into what makes the appropriation of these memes feel even more disingenuous.

Did you watch The God of High School? It was a Crunchyroll (which is now owned by Sony) “original” anime that had Crunchyroll ads placed throughout the series. Imagine if an anime like that also attempted to rely on memes for cheap wins while already selling out.

I’m sure we’re going to see more anime do this in the future. If some random seasonal anime that will be forgotten in a month anyway happens to use a meme while it’s still relevant, it’s going to be a huge talking point (which, to be fair, still happened with Nagatoro).

Dating an Anime

The other issue I see with using memes and short-lived slang in translations is that it can date an anime. And unfortunately, when I say “date an anime,” I don’t mean it in a good way like “date an anime girl.”

What I mean is that it causes anime to show their age. Obviously, anime show their age in many ways. The visual style of a series can tell you when it was made. Or maybe if you see characters in the anime with flip phones, you know it was made, or at least originally written, in the 2000s.

With memes, however, anime can be dated on much shorter timespans. It’s no longer a matter of being able to tell which decade an anime is from just by looking at it. Now you can tell what year, or even season it came out in.

Nagatoro's cute smile from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro
Nagatoro’s cute smile

Let’s say you’re watching Nagatoro in 2022. Nothing about it would really tell you when it was from. That is until you reach Nagatoro saying “sus.” Then, you’d have a good idea that it came out shortly after, or maybe even during, the Among Us craze.

And I think tying anime to events in the real world is somewhat detrimental. It breaks the immersiveness of a series, in my opinion. When I’m watching an anime, I don’t want to be reminded that Among Us was a huge online phenomenon. It’s kind of like how the translator for Netflix’s Evangelion subtitles added in modern politics. Nobody wants that.

One last thing I’ll mention in regards to dating anime is that some of these jokes simply won’t make sense in the near future. Sus will still make sense because it’s just slang for suspicious. But if the Harambe example I mentioned earlier was real, that would make no sense to a lot of people today.

Harambe died 6 years ago, by the way. Kids are watching anime now, and maybe even reading this, who have no idea who that is.

Conclusion

What do you think of adding memes and time-limited slang in anime subtitles? Should series do it? Or should they stay away and go with more traditional translations? Let me know in the comments.

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Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro

Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro

Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro anime series cover art
Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro

Series Overview

Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro (Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san / イジらないで、長瀞さん) is your standard slice-of-life rom-com anime. Well, maybe “standard” isn’t exactly the right designation. It’s actually part of the relatively new sub-genre featuring a girl who teases the male protagonist.

I’ll get more into the controversy surrounding that sub-genre and Nagatoro specifically later on in this review. But, similar anime are Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san, which I think is the best one, and Uzaki-chan Wants to Hang Out!

So, the premise of this series is quite simple. A first-year student named Nagatoro likes to bully and tease her upperclassmen crush because he’s a loser. But she actually does it because she secretly likes him.

There’s no complex plot here. The appeal of the show is just in seeing how Nagatoro and Naoto (apparently that’s his name) interact with each other. It’s definitely not a series for everyone. Some people will think it’s boring, others don’t like the bullying aspect, etc. Just keep in mind that it’s not that serious.

Now, one thing I’m going to suggest regarding this series is that if you decide to give the anime a shot, watch at least two episodes. The reason I say that is because how Nagatoro acts in Episode 1 is very different from how she acts in the other 11 episodes.

This isn’t to say that you’re guaranteed to enjoy the show more by Episode 2. But I did see a lot of criticism from people who only watched the first episode or parts of the first episode. And generally, their criticisms only applied to that episode.

Also, even I’ll admit that the first episode was probably the worst of the series. It serves as an introduction to the characters, but I think it could have been altered due to how different it is from everything after it.

Characters

Let’s start this section off with Naoto Hachiouji, the protagonist. Until I looked him up for this review, I honestly didn’t know he had a name. I just assumed he was “Senpai.” Anyway, he’s a second-year loser with no friends who’s also effectively the sole member of the school’s art club.

Hayase Nagatoro is the titular female lead of the series. In the first episode, she’s pretty brutal with her bullying. But after that, she’s a lot tamer. Nagatoro is also the opposite of Naoto in almost every way, such as that she’s both athletic and popular.

Maki Gamou is one of Nagatoro’s friends. She’s the delinquent character of the series, and as such, enjoys bullying not only her senpai but also Nagatoro. Maki knows Nagatoro is protective of Naoto, and so she takes advantage of that.

Sakura, Maki, Nagatoro, and Yoshi dressed as cat maids from the anime Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro
Sakura, Maki, Nagatoro, and Yoshi dressed as cat maids

Yoshi is my least favorite of Nagatoro’s friends. I don’t particularly like Maki, but I find Yoshi to be annoying. She’s the follower of the group. 90% of the time, she’s just following and parroting Maki. She’s also very cat-like for no real reason.

Sakura is my favorite character. She’s not as prominent as Maki and Yoshi are, but she’s still within Nagatoro’s friend group. Generally speaking, Sakura is probably the nicest of the girls. But she uses her kindness to bend other people, specifically male students, to her will.

And the final character of the series (yes, there are only six) is Sana Sunomiya. Sana is a third-year student and president of the art club Naoto is a member of. She’s not around much because she’s busy studying for college entrance exams. Sana also specializes in painting erotic, nude self-portraits.

Anime Controversy

In case you hadn’t heard, there was a lot of controversy surrounding Nagatoro ever since the anime was first announced. But, none of that controversy seems to have existed when it was just a manga. Why? Because it’s all just people being outraged for no reason.

I guess I’ll start with Nagatoro’s personality and actions in the first episode since I’ve already touched on it. People thought her bullying went too far. It’s an anime. Calm down. And if it really bothers you that much, nothing else in the series ever comes close to that again.

However, the controversies didn’t start with the first episode of the anime. When it was first announced, there was a vocal group of people who were claiming that Nagatoro was whitewashed because her skin isn’t very dark.

Hayase Nagatoro from the anime series Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro
Hayase Nagatoro

I hate to break this to everyone who thinks that, but Nagatoro isn’t black. If you actually look at the manga, this is obvious. She’s tanner than the protagonist and other characters. But her skin tone is no lighter in the anime than it is in the manga.

Additionally, her skin isn’t even naturally tan. There are many times throughout the manga and anime when we see her tan lines from being on the swim team. Her skin that’s normally covered by her bathing suit is actually just about as light as any other character’s.

So, no, the anime hasn’t whitewashed Nagatoro. She’s just a Japanese girl who happens to have a tan because she’s constantly outside in a bathing suit as a member of the swim team. This outrage is just as unfounded as when people said Uzaki-chan was a loli.

I’m not entirely sure why this subgenre of rom-com gets so much unfounded hate. Nagatoro’s character in the first episode is understandable if you don’t realize that’s not the whole series. But most of the hate originates from demonstrably false claims.

Conclusion

It may have seemed like I was defending Don’t Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro a lot in this review, but at the end of the day, I think it’s a 6/10. I don’t think it deserves all the hate it gets, but it’s not a great anime by any means. It was enjoyable, but that’s about it.

I’d actually highly recommend Takagi-san over Nagatoro. It’s better in every way. It’s more wholesome, has better supporting characters, is funnier, and has better OPs.

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