Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12

Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12

Another Perspective on War

I was wrong about how Canute planned to use Olmar to take Ketil’s farm. Last week, I predicted they’d get Olmar to do something like steal from the King. But, they actually tried (and succeeded) to get him to kill a member of the King’s guard.

In hindsight, this actually makes more sense. And I’m glad that Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12 went down this path. Why? Because this is an anti-war anime. Now that Olmar has killed a man, we’ll get to dissect how that changes him as a person.

But, you may be thinking that we have enough characters affected by war to follow. Do we really need Olmar’s perspective, as well? The answer is yes. Olmar’s perspective differs from all the other characters we’re following in the story. Each character brings a unique perspective when it comes to war.

A member of the King's guard laughing at Olmar from the anime series Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12
A member of the King’s guard laughing at Olmar

To illustrate this point, let’s go through a few of the major characters from this season. Thorfinn was once consumed by vengeance and hurt people he didn’t even know, but now sees the error of his ways. Opposite him, we have Einar, one of the many people whom war has hurt.

There’s also Canute, who’s haunted by his actions but can’t help but be consumed by his desire for power. And what about Ketil? He’s a man who’s afraid of war but made up stories claiming to be a war hero to benefit himself.

Then, we have Ketil’s son, Thorgil, who so far, appears to be obsessed with war and death. I’ll discuss him more in a bit. And, lastly, we now have Olmar. Olmar is an unwilling participant. He never intended to kill anyone. But now that he has, he must carry that weight.

Olmar Did Nothing Wrong

Let’s look at the evidence against Olmar, Thorgil, and Ketil to determine their guilt. But, before I do that, let me just make one thing clear. If Olmar or Thorgil is guilty, Ketil is as well. In many cultures, the parents are responsible for the actions of the children.

So, with that in mind, that’s Ketil’s only possible offense. He didn’t do anything else that would warrant punishment. What about Olmar and Thorgil, though? Well, I’m going to say that Olmar is safe. Yes, he did kill a man. But, we need to look at the circumstances around that killing.

Of course, Olmar only killed him due to outside interference in their duel. But, let’s ignore that. The fact is that Olmar killed a man in a duel that they both agreed to. And, this duel was about honor, which, according to Thorgil, is a regular occurrence.

Thorgil standing his ground from the anime series Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12
Thorgil standing his ground

Yes, you could argue, as the King’s guard do, that duels are illegal. But, based on what Thorgil said, dueling between men for honor has never led to punishment before. If duels never resulted in punishments before, then why now? Olmar did nothing wrong.

Thorgil’s actions are a bit more suspect. He wasn’t involved in a duel. But, he was protecting someone from 4 armed attackers. I have no problem with him doing that. Even the fact that he killed all 4 men is fine. They intended to kill Olmar, so they should anticipate that they could be the ones killed instead.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

But, where Thorgil messes up is when he kills the additional guards who come to arrest him, Ketil, and Olmar. He did this because he knew they were being set up. But, that doesn’t excuse those killings.

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Thorgil the Mad

As I mentioned earlier, Thorgil seems to love war and death. I have a feeling that he would enjoy his time in the underworld where Thorfinn met Askeladd. If he could slaughter his enemies 24/7, that would be like paradise to Thorgil.

And if you have any doubt about this, just look at Thorgil’s response to becoming a fugitive. Thorgil is actually looking forward to fighting Canute’s soldiers. He knows they’re strong, and he wants to go up against strong opponents. That’s not the thought process of a normal, rational person.

But, you may have noticed that Thorgil has a lot in common with another character, Thorkell. Thorkell also loves war and only wants to fight against strong opponents. And, if I’m remembering correctly, he’s a member of the Jomsvikings. This is the group that’s going to accompany Canute to Ketil’s farm.

Thorgil anticipating fighting the King's army from the anime series Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12
Thorgil anticipating fighting the King’s army

That’s right, we might get to see a duel between Thorgil and Thorkell, two of the strongest warriors. And I’m sure they would love to fight each other. That’s exactly what they’re both looking for. But, there’s always a chance that we don’t get this fight.

Who do you think would win? Thorkell has a size advantage. He’s not called Thorkell the Tall for nothing. Thorkell is also more of a wildcard, which could play to his advantage, as well. But, I’m going to assume Thorgil has more skill when it comes to fighting.

Thorgil may be insane like Thorkell. But, he’s also capable of rational thinking during a fight. The fighting we saw from Thorgil in this episode was methodical and executed well. Thorkell, on the other hand, is more like a berserker.

I’d give the fight to Thorgil. But, we’ll have to wait and see what happens.


What do you think of Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12? How do you think killing a man will affect Olmar? At what point would you say Thorgil crossed a line in his fight? And, do you think he could beat Thorkell? Let me know in the comments.

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5 Replies to “Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12”

  1. I don’t think Thorgill can take on Thorkell. By Thorkell’s own word, the only person who was stronger than him was the mighty Thors himself. If Snake taught Thorgill everything he knows, it only goes to suggest that Snake is a better fighter than Thorgill despite Snake’s smaller frame. I wouldn’t be surprised if Thorkell kills Thorgill easily.

  2. I previously said that if Thorkell came to Ketil’s farm that the farm would be doomed, but I also predicted that Thorfinn would use what he learned from farming to repel an invasion. Maybe Thorfinn legitimately defeats Thorkell in a duel by using the land against him, and Thorkell calls off the invasion in a rebuke to Canute since Thorkell probably has quite of sway as the worldbeater he is. Snake would see the error in his ways in never tending to the field as Sverkel says, and even a dunce like Olmar would learn something from that. That might just be the perfect way to end Vinland Saga Season 2.

    1. At this point, I don’t think Thorfinn is going to fight anyone. He already made a vow not to fight anymore. So, I don’t see him fighting Thorkell. Thorkell would obviously want to fight Thorfinn, but I think he’d quickly get bored when he realizes Thorfinn has no intention of fighting back.

      1. Thorfinn vowed to never hurt anyone ever again, not that he would never fight again. He could defeat Thorkell without hurting him by using the land against him.

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